Zombie films...

[tom]

Not sure if this sort of thread has already come and gone, but over here in Britain a new series is about to start (monday 27th october) called "Dead Set" which looks like it is going to be a cross between "28 days later" and reality TV program "Big Brother". It just got me thinking about good (and bad) zombie movies - I can't say I've seen that many but whenever I play Outbreak I always think it would be cool to play out some of the scenes in of films like "Dawn of the dead" (e.g. the escape from the mall).

I guess a really cool thing would be a few maps based on certain scenes in zombie flix - anyway thought I'd mention it! Hmmmmmm...bit of a non-thread really...sorry...

T...

P.S. Check out a trailer for Dead Set here: www.e4.com/video/1a0iia3XV46GoUd22ekjy4/play.e4

[veteran_gamer]

I'll tell ya what Tom, 28 days and weeks later, which I believe are made in Britain, are in my opinion one of the coolest zombie films ever, or at least FUN. they were so FUN to watch!

Dawn of the dead (1970's version and 2004), and Night of the living dead (color version) are the only American flicks really worth your while in my opinion.

What I loved about 28 days/weeks later, was unlike the vastly bloated American Infrastructure with wide roads, huge open space combat areas etc, was everything is more close-quarters. Narrow streets, closer adjacent buildings, sidewalks etc. Its funny because HL2 vanilla seems like its based somewhere in Europe, which is perfect for zombie movies. Isolation is also much more terrifying, since you cant just go to a Walmart Parking lot and have a clear view of an entire mile. Ive never been to New York, but it seems a bit more similar to London or whatnot than California haha.

When it comes to Zombie movies, either Remote areas like "bum-fuck Alabama Town" with a population of 200, or, a closely knit City infrastructure are what takes the Win in my opinion.

Now that I kidnapped IneptGaurd and threw him in a dungeon while he develops his talents, I see no reason why to change close-contact like environments. And that show looks really cool.

Also 28 weeks later so far, is probably one of my favorite zombie films, but I admit the Trapped in the mall setting from George Romero's 1970's and the Remake of dawn of the dead, also Won me over big-time.

not sure if i was on topic here Tom, was just working on OUTBREAK and the thread caught my eye.

thanks for the link!

[tom]

Yeah 28 days... are quality - on the whole I much preferred the first one though. I haven't seen the original Dawn of the Dead but the new one was great fun - I'll have to check out Night of the Living dead!

Yeah defo know what you mean about close quarters-ness of HL2 - very claustrophoic & perfect for crazy fast zombies!

No worries about the link - glad you liked it! The program looks great - can't wait! Good work with Outbreak again by the way - it's phenomenal stuff!

Thanks T...

[Sickle]

Some of the Italian zombie movies from the 70s/80s are really good.

[IneptGuard]

I didn’t like 28 days later as much as I liked the second one. To me it felt like the first one focused to much on the main characters and their story of surviving the evil soldiers that wanted to rape and kill them (WTF?). It just feels like this movie is out to make the military look like a bunch of assholes. Normally I could over look this but it seems like it concentrates too much on this part of the story. The second one was better in this respect as it didn’t get to far off of the storyline and I think the soldiers portrayed in the second one responded a little more realistically to the situation.

As for dawn of the dead, never saw the original one but I enjoyed the remake. The biggest issue I had with this one was the lack of explanation. I mean after sitting through all of the movie I think most people expected some kind of a story line to develop but to my disappointment I walked out of the theater saying to my friend: so why was every body turning into to zombies and how the hell does this chick still drive to work and live her life completely oblivious to the zombie apocalypse at the beginning! You would think something like a zombie apocalypse in the making would have gotten a little bit more media attention and maybe some kind of military intervention? Then again I am just being picky.

I’m not trying say that these movies suck but sometimes I just feel like there can be no such thing as a great movie that is centered around zombies. I guess I will have to wait and see how that movie Quarantine turns out.

Did any one see diary of the dead? I was wondering if it was any good.

Edit:

Oh and Vet, you left the dungeon window open again. All of the Devs escaped... again. (Sound FX and cued music signify a daring escape)

[veteran_gamer]

Hahah, you little bastards. Get back to work before I thin your food rations further!

And thanks for the good words Tom!

You know what Inept, I forgot to mention that part, probably because I never thought of it until you put it into perspective. But I remember once the evil horny soldiers got involved, me being turned off by the whole plot. It just killed all immersion. After they shoot the dad, it just becomes like some hostage situation and a few zombies come in at the end to feed on everyone. When I first saw the soldiers, I was like Fuck yeah, now they got guns, trained combatants & a safe-house until they either move to a new location, or find out where the survivors are congregating. Instead, as you said, the so called soldiers with poor aim who get easily overrun by meat-bags are just on a mission to get some pussy? I thought the ending sucked because it became more of a man vs man situation. When in real life, if the soldier WERE going to do some crazy stuff, they'd probably go looting at jewelry stores and shit like that, and take it to the remaining cities (since the head guy seemed to know that not the entire world was zombified) . Also, in a situation with cannibal maniacs everywhere, you would think the brotherhood would become stronger, they cant afford to lose extra guns, they cant just replace any casualty. Are we to believe these soldiers were lied to and manipulated by the C.O. to believe the world is destroyed and there is no vagina left on earth, so he promises them...women to keep their morale high? Bah eat a bowl of shit!

And lets say these guys were on some Taliban type shit right? Wouldnt they have just Shot the dad, shot the main character, and gotten to business right away? Whats the benifit of bringing this stranger into your sanctuary, showing him the layout, pretending to be cool, then having to deal with the shocking news that.. "hey, we're all rapists". It would be less of a security risk to just kill the men, bang the girls and lock them away somewhere. Wow haha I feel a bit nasty thinking like that.

If I was a soldier in that situation, the main priority would be to gather as much military equipment and ammo as possible, secure food & water & basic shelter. Come up with the mission objectives and get on the Road. If anything, at this point, we need to get to a coast and find some kind of boat, to either get to a different state, country, or bunker up on some island. Besides, you have a better chance and tapping some vagina if you find locations with survivors, women would naturally want soldier types to feel safe, and would be uncontrollably attracted and attached to any sign of strength for protection. Gear up brothers, we're finding remaining civilizations, and getting laid, getting laid so much, eventually we'll have TOO much pussy to handle.

Keep in mind I was acting like a rapist soldier, well a logical one without the rapist I suppose.

fun topic

[IneptGuard]

Yeh that was my biggest turn off for that movie. It started out good but just got gradually worse half way through. 28 weeks later was pretty good and I like the way it actually explains the situation as a whole rather than focusing to much on just one small group of people.

I am legend was pretty good to although technically not a zombie movie its close. Did you ever see the original one? I think it was called the last man on earth or something like that. It was different from the remake but you could make an easy comparison. Anyway the original was pretty good if not better than the remake.

[veteran_gamer]

yeah 28 weeks later was cool as hell. I loved the heavy security setting, it provided an almost believable sense of security. But as we saw, all it takes is one infected, and hell breaks loose. Man I sure loved the sniper, his role was really cool and humble, but not forced at all. It had to have sucked shooting every civilian in sight, I think i woulda awol'd my damn self. I swear, watchin him burn created a real sense of hopelessness. They were left with a Katie whatever her name is look-alike, which was only equipped with an injury to her leg and paniced state of mind. I also liked the pilot haha. The way he lawn mowered those zombies into kibbles was beautiful!

I also saw I am legend, but havent seen the original you mentioned. I am legend was pretty cool, and the story definitely made the case for the setting. Damn, having to kill your dog, your only friend and family member left...gotta suck..what was her name.....Sam wasnt it?

And I've seen a bootleg of Quarantine. I wont spoil it for you so you can watch it, but ill tell you this, thankfully it has an explanation for the situation that makes sense as well. Even if you don't end up liking it, it's one of those movies that you just have to watch....cause...you just cant help it haha.

By the way, the chick in that movie, ive seen her in some teen pop culture twisted microwavable film, i think it was Cruel Intentions which I was forced to watch with my (ex) girlfriend. She's all grown up now, check her out

[IneptGuard]

I will have to look in to that movie it looks like a sweet story.

I remember when I went through my basic training and AIT we had to take our basic NBC (Nuclear Biological Chemical) introduction course. In that type of situation if containment is lost than reestablishing containment is our first priority. We where also told if we are ordered to shoot civilian we can refuse based on it being unlawful order but if the civilians are mixed in with or shielding the enemy than they are fair game as far as military law is concerned. The use of poison gas would even work on you average run of the mill already dead zombie to if you think about it. Chemical weapons or neuron toxin inhibitors stop the brain from sending messages to the muscles.



(Off topic)
Did you ever see the movie The Rock with Cage and Connery? Did you know that Vx poison gas is real and so is the atropine the only way to counter act Vx is a direct injection into the heart. If exposed to (I think it was like) 1 tenth of a milligram will cause death in about ten minutes. It’s some pretty fucked up shit.


Alright I got to finish up some stuff. I may post up some gameplay of my map later on tonight or tomorrow.

[Sickle]

The Crazies is kind of like 28 Days/Weeks Later, but directed by George Romero. Braindead/Dead Alive is fucking awesome too, and I assume you guys have seen all of the Evil Dead movies.

[veteran_gamer]

Yeah i remember the rock,that movie was pretty nuts, and that gas is some REALLY fucked up shit, what kind of asshole thinks of these weapons!

and evil dead, ahah.

"I kick ass for the lord son!"

if i remember correctly

I didn't like the first one, but i think the second one is where he ends up in the medieval times, that one was pretty cool for the 80s

[Sickle]

No man the third one is where he ends up in medieval times, that one's Army of Darkness.

[†Ms. Rocker Red†]

I was going to mention The Evil Dead movies. Nothing like a couple bottles of Boone's Farm & some zombie movies on a friday night back in the 80's. LoL

Not sure if this has been posted on here. Swy if so. I found it enjoyable & only died 3 times getting to the end. It's not perfect so the images are behind the audio. Use the chapter select in the lower L corner to bring up a flowchart for going back or reviewing your choices.

Anyway, here is Survive the Outbreak www.survivetheoutbreak.com/

[tom]

Well the first episode (of 5) Channel 4's program on E4 that I mentioned before ("Dead Set") is available on 4oD (Channel 4's watch again service). I've put a link to it below but can't guarantee it'll work for those of you outside Britain due to copyright. Check it out though and see!

www.channel4.com/video/brandless-catchup.jsp?vodBrand=dead-set
(only available for another 34 days though)


Thanks T...

[IneptGuard]

Sorry dude, its not working. i got some kind of come ashore to watch TV message.

Yeh, like i am going to cross the atlantic to watch TV
Thanks anyways, it was worth a try.

[tom]

Bummer that's a shame - it's pretty good actually, the filming is straight out of 28 days... just down a quick search and found it here: www.surfthechannel.com/show/television/Dead_Set.html woohoo!!! Check it out! Hope it works T...

[corkymcchubbles]

I liked shawn of the dead